Columbine third shooter myth debunked (finally)

Did Over 90 Witnesses Really See A “Third Shooter?”

 

Massive amounts of testimony that supposedly supports the possibility of a “third shooter” at Columbine has been circulating the internet for many years. Due to this it is widely believed that more than 90 eyewitnesses actually identified a “third shooter” and the Jefferson County Police Department has simply chosen to ignore it.

With so many pieces of quoted testimony there is no doubt that this theory deserves a close look. After all, if there really is evidence that points to a third shooter it definitely deserves to be addressed.

We dove into this theory expecting to find at least some witnesses who saw a third shooter, but as we went down the list of witnesses and read their actual testimony – it became clear that the widely circulated quotes were carefully cherry-picked and even edited to reflect the support of a third shooter.

We’re not saying that there wasn’t a third shooter at Columbine. We’re simply saying that the testimony used to support the third shooter theory that is circulating the internet has been shamelessly manipulated and fabricated.

So now we have to ask… where did these quotes come from? Who gathered this information and labeled it “research?” Is the testimony accurately quoted? Is the testimony in context? Well, the short answer is no – not at all. The testimony circulating the internet regarding the “proof” of a “third shooter” at Columbine is blatantly false and manipulated.

The origin for this manipulated testimony is a man who goes by the online handle “Starviego” and “Starvosan” on discussion forums such as CRTF, Super Columbine Massacre RPG and Stormfront.

The truth is that only (x) witnesses provided testimony that can be considered to have identified a shooter that was neither Eric nor Dylan.

We acknowledge possibility that a third person may have been involved in the very beginning due to the testimony of (insert names here) but we do not support the possibility of a bonafide third shooter. The reason for this is that there is no direct evidence to indicate an actual third shooter.

 

Debunking Manipulated Testimony

 

VALID INVALID HEARSAY MANIPULATED

REAL STATUS OF WITNESS TESTIMONY QUOTED
WITNESS NAME 11k Page # STATUS REASON
Adam Campbell 731-733 INVALID Saw Nothing
Adam Thompson 2213-2215 INVALID Saw Nothing
Alex Babiniec 1752-1756 INVALID Saw Nothing
Alicia Maes 3613-3619 INVALID Identified Klebold
Amy Evans 2960-2965 INVALID Saw No Weapon, only a trenchcoat;
Could not describe suspect
Amy Terry 2205-2209 INVALID Terry’s testimony cited as 3rd shooter proof is HEARSAY from another student’s testimony
Ann Marie Hochhalter 215-216 INVALID Saw only 2 suspects matching Eric and Dylan’s description
Anthony Sammauro 4297-4304 INVALID Identified Klebold
Ashley Egeland 5247-5268 VALID Identified Harris and also Chris Morris with a handgun
Bijen Monte 1014-1026 QUESTIONABLE
Brandi Wiseman 4750-4761 INVALID Brief glimpse of trenchcoat
Saw no face, no weapon
Brenton Hooker 1464-1467 Identified only suspect seen as Klebold
Bryan Frye 805-816 (EP25-69) INVALID Saw one shooter first identified as Harris.
Then changed his mind because of a RUMOR he heard at school that Robert Perry was involved. After believing this rumor, he suddenly remembered seeing acne on the shooter from a whopping 30 yards away (300 feet) in his second interview. He finally identified Klebold.
Cara Sander 1121-1124 (EP25-203 VALID
Chris Therrien 1202-1208 INVALID He told Bijen Monty that he identified Klebold. Bijen told him she thought it was Robert Perry. Suddenly in Therrien’s second interview, he changed his mind and told investigators the suspect he saw from 15 yards away (45 feet) had terrible acne – something he never mentioned before.
Chris Wisher 1261 INVALID Wisher only ever saw 2 suspects. First he saw two suspects in black trench coats. After some time had passed, he saw two suspects again: one in a trench coat and one in a white t-shirt. He identified the person in the white t-shirt as Harris. He could not identify the suspect in the trench coat. We know Eric was wearing a white t-shirt under his coat, and he took his coat off outside where Wisher saw him.
Courtney Haulman 839-844 (EP25-91)
Crystal Archuleta 2362-2370 (EP1-197)
Daphne Baca 8894
David Eagle 1877-1886
Devon Adams 10614-10618
Dick Strange 1193-1195
Diwata Perez 537-541
Drew Lagerborg 1999-2000
Erik Sunde 4572-4578
Erin Walton 2241-2248 (2241-2248)
Evan Todd 8826 (161-179)
Frank DeAngelis 5670-5682
Gary Talocco 8876
Holly Pinkham 1620
J. Adams 7422
Jake Apodaca 653
Jason Baer 1759
Jason Brehm 719
Jay Gallantine 3086
Jen Smull 2182
Jennifer Tindall 1226
Jessica Holliday
Jessica Rusch 2143
John Curtis 2286
John Ortwein 1939
John Spahlinger 1176
John Vandemark 2216
Jonathan Cole 749
Jordan Grimm 22432
Josh Brinkley 2528
Joshua Lapp 480
Julie Thomas ASCO 808
Kacey Ruegsegger 128
Katelyn Place EP21-285
Katy Beer 6636
Kristen Long 20245
Lacey Smith 4470
Lacy Hohn EP1-186
Leanne Clark 1422
Leigh Kamens 1422
Leiha Murphy 3828
Lindsay Elmore 332
Lindsay Wyant 4799
Mark Hengel 5901
Mark Opfer 1064
Matt Katzenmeier 5745
Matt Katzenmeier 3424
Melissa Chavez 9023
Mindy Pollock 10009
Monica Schuster 19470
Natalie Baker 2583
Nathan Anema 2359
Nathan Dykeman
Pam Wood 8902
Patrick McDuffee 10786
Patrick Vassar 4691
Richard Olejniczak 5070
Rusty Shyler 5464
Ryan Ezzie 2967
Sara Houy 380
Seth Biggi 2475
Seth Dubois EP21-125
Terry Lawson 10020
Tessa Nelson EP1-113
Tiffany Lien 968
Timothy Kastle 3416
Trista Fogerty 23144
Valeen Schnurr 18969
Wade Allen Frank EP1-91
William Arapkiles 660

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